John Bernhardt & ABBA THE ALBUMS ask the musical question?

DOES ABBA BELONG IN THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME?

On DECEMBER 15, 2009-ABBA was chosen to be inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall of Fame along with Genesis, the Hollies, Jimmy Cliff, and The Stooges. They were inducted in New York City on March 15, 2010. DOES ABBA BELONG In the Rock And Roll Hall of fame? An interesting question, since they are quite probably the largest selling artist of the Rock era not to be in the hall of fame up to now.... What are The criteria for being picked to the hall of fame as a performers ?

"Artists become eligible for induction 25 years after the release of their first record. Criteria include the influence and significance of the artist's contributions to the development and perpetuation of rock and roll.


The Foundation's nominating committee, composed of rock and roll historians, selects nominees each year in the Performer category. Ballots are then sent to an international voting body more than 500 rock experts. Those performers who receive the highest number of votes, and more than 50 percent of the vote, are inducted. The Foundation generally inducts five to seven performers each year." ....from the HALL OF FAME website...

Probably the most legitimate reason that ABBA had not been chosen is that they are really not thought of as a rock and roll act. Like the Bee Gees, they are often labeled as a Disco act even though they only recorded about dozen disco style recordings. ABBA actually recorded a highly electic catalog of songs, they dabbled into glamrock,music hall,Spanish pop, Hendrix influenced guitar songs, schalger, folk-pop,fifties style rock,synth-pop, bubble gum, etc. ABBA's music could best be summed up as Euro-pop. ABBA's songwriters were inspired to write songs and record music by the Beatles and they were working in the same self-written pop rock tradition as the Beatles. Most ABBA records have a backbeat-their recordings are not Tony Bennett records. ABBA's band was two guitars, a electric bass, a drum kit and keyboards. The difference is that ABBA's version of this music though was influenced not by Rythem and Blues, but by European Schlagers, Swedish folk music, French Chansons, and the darkness of Swedish winters. The Roll and Roll Hall of Fame does not just include pure Rock and Roll acts. Many of the acts in Hall of Fame are not strictly rock and roll, there are country, hip-hop and jazz artists-and there whole heap of soul acts. The hall selection committee actually un the past had a decided bias towards picking doo-wop groups, rhythm & blues and soul acts. The acts most similar to ABBA that are already in the hall are perhaps the BEE GEES , The Mamas and The Papas and the recent inductee-Madonna. These three acts did not do a lot of straight rock and roll records, but they are widely respected. ABBA has been an influential group due to their being the first major superstar act from from a non-English speaking country.

Another reason ABBA was lightly regarded by some as that they recorded a decidedly commercial body of work, that sometimes was a little light it least in the beginning on artistic achievement.A lot of ABBA fans sense that the other reason ABBA was not inducted for so long is simply that there is a bias in favor of American acts and ABBA is the quintessential non-American pop act...The success of Mamma Mia made ABBA a much better known act in America, and so ABBA became less obscure.

Many other rock and pop acts been left out of the hall. In any selection process biases creep in, some people are left out and some are inexplicably chosen. The Rock and Roll of Fame seems to have gotten into the habit of choosing lots of minor acts and leaving out bigger acts.

One might certainly question the body of works of many of the following acts currently in the hall., especially in comparison to acts not in the hall of fame.

Look at this list of Genuine Hall of Famers.....

Bobby Darin,The Four Seasons, The Yardbirds. Ritchie Valens, Duane Eddy,The (Young) Rascals,The Buffalo Springfield, Lloyd Price, Gene Vincent, Curtis Mayfield,The Staple Singers,The Moonglows ,Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers,The Flamingos, Jackson Browne, Ritchie Valens,Isaac Hayes,Ramones,AC/DC, the Dells and ZZTop...Percy Sledge, Blondie, The Sex Pistols and Miles Davis( great artist,but is he rock and roll?), The Ronettes, Patti Smith, The Ventures...


Some of these acts are clearly important rock 'n rollers, but a lot of them have a very small body of important work.. A lot of of the early rock and rollers legends didn't actually make many record albums.

Some have wondered why (as of 2010)The Monkees (well maybe not), Joan Baez, Hall and Oates, Dionne Warwick, Frank Zappa,The Jam, Cat Stevens, Kate Bush, KISS,Three Dog Night, Cliff Richard, Donna Summer, Rush, Doobie Brothers, Dire Straits, Jim Croce, Rush, Joy Division, Journey, Heart, Judy Collins, Chicago, Fairport Convention, , The Cars, Boston, Def Leppard, Yes, Tom Waits, Linda Ronstadt, the Moody Blues, ELO , Neil Diamond and many others are not in the hall ....But then I'm not in the hall either, I am in the bedroom....And we could have also included long ignored Black Sabbath,Genesis, Van Halen, and Lynyrd Skynyrd in that list a few years ago...

One conclusion I have reached is that are far too many acts!- in the rock and hall of fame, and that is why the hall of fame does not have a lot of credibility.... They should really just stick to acts that are open and shut cases, and their are certainly are not five such acts of a year......The widely respected Baseball of Fame usually limits itself to picking just a couple of players a year, though they occasionally select non-players or neglected players from previous era via a veterans committee.

WHAT FOLLOWS is A list of performers inducted into the ROCK and ROLL HALL OF FAME.The list does not include, other categories of inductees such as sideman, early influences, or non-performers....

 

1986

*Chuck Berry
*James Brown
*Ray Charles
*Sam Cooke
*Fats Domino
*The Everly Brothers
*Buddy Holly
*Jerry Lee Lewis
*Elvis Presley
*Little Richard

 1987


The Coasters
Eddie Cochran
Bo Diddley
*Aretha Franklin
*Marvin Gaye
Bill Haley
B. B. King
Clyde McPhatter
*Ricky Nelson
*Roy Orbison
Carl Perkins
*Smokey Robinson
Big Joe Turner
Muddy Waters
Jackie Wilso
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1988

*The Beach Boys
*The Beatles
*
The Drifters
*Bob Dylan
*The Supremes

1989

Dion
Otis Redding
*The Rolling Stones
*The Temptations
*Stevie Wonder

 1990


Hank Ballard
Bobby Darin
The Four Seasons
*The Four Tops
*The Kinks
The Platters
*Simon and Garfunkel
*The Who

1991


LaVern Baker
*The Byrds
John Lee Hooker
The Impressions
Wilson Pickett
Jimmy Reed
Ike and Tina Turner

 1992


Bobby "Blue" Bland
Booker T. and the M.G.'s
*Johnny Cash
*The Isley Brothers
*The Jimi Hendrix Experience
Sam and Dave
The Yardbirds

  1993

Ruth Brown
Cream
*Creedence Clearwater Revival
*The Doors
Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers
Etta James
*Van Morrison
Sly and the Family Stone
 1994

The Animals
The Band
Duane Eddy
*The Grateful Dead
*Elton John
*John Lennon
*Bob Marley
Rod Stewart
 1995

*The Allman Brothers Band
Al Green
*Janis Joplin
*Led Zeppelin
Martha and the Vandellas
*Neil Young
Frank Zappa

 1996


David Bowie
Gladys Knight and the Pips
Jefferson Airplane
Little Willie John
*Pink Floyd
The Shirelles
The Velvet Underground

  1997

The (Young) Rascals
*The Bee Gees
Buffalo Springfield
*Crosby, Stills and Nash
The Jackson Five
*Joni Mitchell
Parliament-Funkadelic

 1998


*The Eagles
*Fleetwood Mac
The Mamas and the Papas
Lloyd Price
Santana
Gene Vincent

 

 1999


*Billy Joel
Curtis Mayfield
*Paul McCartney
Del Shannon
*Dusty Springfield
*Bruce Springsteen
The Staple Singers

2000



*Eric Clapton
*Earth, Wind & Fire
Lovin' Spoonful
The Moonglows
Bonnie Raitt
*James Taylor

 

2001


Aerosmith
Solomon
Burke
The Flamingos
*Michael Jacks
on
*Queen
Paul Simon
*Steely Dan
Ritchie Val
ens

 

2002


Isaac Hayes
Brenda Lee
Tom Petty
and the Heartbreakers
Gene Pitney
Ramones
Talking Heads

 

2003


AC/DC
*The Clash
Elvis Costello & the Attractions
*The Police
Righteous Brothers

 2004

Jackson Browne

The Dells

George Harrison

Bob Seger

Traffic

ZZtop

  2005

The Pretenders

Percy Sledge

Buddy Guy

The O'Jays

*U2

2006

Blondie,

Miles Davis

The Sex Pistols

Black Sabbath

*Lynyrd Skynyrd

 2007-*R.E.M, Grand Master Flash, Patty Smith, The Ronettes, and Van Halen  2008- Madonna, *John Mellencamp Leonard Cohen, the Ventures and the Dave Clark Five.

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* ACTS I CONSIDER TO BE LEGITIMATE indisputable choices!

 

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86

Chuck Berry
James Brown
Ray Charles
Sam Cooke
Fats Domino
The Everly Brothers
Buddy Holly
Jerry Lee Lewis
Elvis Presley
Little Richard

 87


The Coasters
Eddie Cochran
Bo Diddley
Aretha Franklin
Marvin Gaye
Bill Haley
B. B. King
Clyde McPhatter
Ricky Nelson
Roy Orbison
Carl Perkins
Smokey Robinson
Big Joe Turner
Muddy Waters
Jackie Wilso
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89

The Beach Boys
The Beatles
The Drifters
Bob Dylan
The Supremes

90

Dion
Otis Redding
The Rolling Stones
The Temptations
Stevie Wonder

 90


Hank Ballard
Bobby Darin
The Four Seasons
The Four Tops
The Kinks
The Platters
Simon and Garfunkel
The Who

 91


LaVern Baker
The Byrds
John Lee Hooker
The Impressions
Wilson Pickett
Jimmy Reed
Ike and Tina Turner

 92


Bobby "Blue" Bland
Booker T. and the M.G.'s
Johnny Cash
The Isley Brothers
The Jimi Hendrix Experience
Sam and Dave
The Yardbirds

 93

Ruth Brown
Cream
Creedence Clearwater Revival
The Doors
Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers
Etta James
Van Morrison
Sly and the Family Stone

 

 

 

94

The Animals
The Band
Duane Eddy
The Grateful Dead
Elton John
John Lennon
Bob Marley
Rod Stewart

 

95

The Allman Brothers Band
Al Green
Janis Joplin
Led Zeppelin
Martha and the Vandellas
Neil Young
Frank Zappa

 

96


David Bowie
Gladys Knight and the Pips
Jefferson Airplane

Pink Floyd
The Shirelles
The Velvet Underground

 97

The (Young) Rascals
The Bee Gees
Buffalo Springfield
Crosby, Stills and Nash
The Jackson Five
Joni Mitchell
Parliament-Funkadelic

 98


The Eagles
Fleetwood Mac

Santana
Gene Vincent

 

 

99


Billy Joel

Paul McCartney

Dusty Springfield
Bruce Springsteen

 

 

 

00

Eric Clapton
Earth, Wind & Fire
Lovin' Spoonful


James Taylor

 

01


Aerosmith
Solomon
Burke

Michael Jacks
on
Queen
Paul Simon
Steely Dan

 

02


I
Brenda Lee
Tom Petty
and the Heartbreakers

Talking Heads

 

03


AC/DC
The Clash

The Police
Righteous Brothers

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